When It Was Cool Wrestling (DragonKingKarl) Podcast

Karl Stern (DragonKingKarl) is a pro wrestling historian, has produced the DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Audio Show for over 15 years at WrestlingObserver.com. He is currently putting together the massive Ultimate History of Pro Wrestling Zone here at When It Was Cool. This is the free version of some of the pro wrestling content we produce here at When It Was Cool. The vast majority of it is available early for Patreon supporters and there are over 1900 shows available for subscribers. Enjoy these free shows for a deep dive into pro wrestling history and we hope if you enjoy these shows you will become a Patreon supporter and gain access to many others.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - November 1984 - Thanksgiving 1984, Starrcade 2, and more!

My Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Podcast series returns with a deep dive into November 1984. November 1984 featured multiple Thanksgiving Shows including Starrcade 2 from the NWA. Plus, lots happening in New Japan and All-Japan, Southeastern Championship Wrestling, and more. WWF continues their march to take over pro wrestling in the United States and much more!

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Saturday Retro Wrestling Podcast - Mr. Olympia Biography Special

The Saturday Retro Wrestling Podcast is usually a Patreon only show but I am trying to get word out about a new show coming to the When It Was Cool Podcast Network. Today, we take our time machine back 8 years for a show that might seem random but isn't. As I explain in the newly recorded intro, later this week we are introducing a new podcast on our network called Southeastern Championship Wrestling Action News by Aaron Gartlan who will be covering the existing Southeastern and Continental shows. So, to set the stage, here is my biography of one of SECW's biggest stars and my personal favorite, Mr. Olympia (Jerry Stubbs)

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The HOF Case for the British Bulldogs and more!

One half of the British Bulldogs, Dynamite Kid, is already in the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. So, putting the British Bulldogs in the Hall of Fame is really a question about putting in Davey Boy Smith, right? Not so fast. I make the argument that really isn't the case at all. Plus, more Madison Square Garden history as Jack Pfefer goes rouge on wrestling, and WWF teams up with Super World Sports for a big 1990s Tokyo Dome show with Hulk Hogan and The Road Warriors!

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1000 Hours Podcast - America's First Wrestling Star Revisited - Hour 62

Today I continue with my 1000 Hours podcast series which covers pre-1900 pro wrestling. Now that my new book is out (available at Amazon here- https://amzn.to/3OLWrwf ) we are working our way through the it with additional commentary and thoughts. So, we return to before the American Civil War and find that American pro wrestling's roots actually begin there with a mysterious character called King of the Wrestlers Charles who is traveling from town to town including New York, Baltimore, New Orleans, and elsewhere promoting himself as a wrestler... but he seems to have an accomplice, and it's already looking questionable for the legitimacy of wrestling from the very start.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Show - Junkyard Dog and the WON HOF, MSG, Tokyo Dome, more!

On this week's show, I continue to examine the cases for those who have not yet made the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame. This episode we look at one of the most contentious contenders: Junkyard Dog. Yearly, I get requests to consider JYD for the HOF, but the case just hasn't been there. Today, we dig deeper than ever to see if one can be made. Plus, more history from Madison Square Garden as Jack Pfefer turns on kayfabe, and we talk Ric Flair's only Tokyo Dome appearance verses Tatsumi Fujinami as well.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The HOF Case for Sputnik Monroe, MSG, Tokyo Dome, More!

Recently a tracking spreadsheet for the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame was created by a subscriber at the Observer website. This is a valuable resource for studying those who haven't yet gotten into the Hall of Fame. As a long-time voter, I am going to begin working my way through this resource and carrying you, the listener, with me. Today we begin by looking at the case for Sputnik Monroe, both a wrestler and civil rights activist. Plus, more from the 1930s Madison Square Garden and 1990s Tokyo Dome!

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Bible of the Pioneer Era

The pioneer era of pro wrestling is the era of the origin and development of pro wrestling in the United States which ends in 1900 or pre-Frank Gotch. On this, hour 61 of our series, we begin a walk-through of my new book: DragonKingKarl's Pioneer Era of Wrestling Omnibus. We dive even deeper into the stories in the book discuss the pioneer era of pro wrestling in the deepest detail ever before attempted.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - Observer Hall of Fame 2024 Winners

On my flagship pro wrestling show this week we look at the new 2024 class of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame. Among the new members are Roman Reigns and the Young Bucks and we will discuss them, as well as the other inductees. Also, should any new pioneer era wrestlers be inducted next year? I have a couple of suggestions since I literally wrote the book on the pioneer era of pro wrestling which can be ordered on Amazon at https://amzn.to/40RakQR

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - All Eyes on the Tokyo Dome

My weekly classic pro wrestling podcast this week looks back to the 1930s and much drama surrounding Madison Square Garden in New York City. Then we travel back in time to one of my favorite Tokyo Dome shows- the night Stan Hansen knocked the eyeball out of Big Van Vader! Then, during the second half of the show, we begin a discussion on the evolution of the current fanbase in pro wrestling.

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1000 Hours Podcast - 1886: A Year of Change

My pioneer era podcast returns this week with a look back at 1886. 1886 was a year of change in professional wrestling. Clarence Whistler had been one of the top stars of the last few years but died while on tour of Australia in late 1885. Col. James H. McLaughlin had returned to wrestling after multiple retirements and a young and dangerous wrestler named Evan Lewis was earning his nickname of 'The Strangler' and poised to become a major star.

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For more stories like these, check out my new book: DragonKingKarl's Pioneer Era Pro Wrestling Omnibus: The Bible of the Pioneer Era of Wrestling from Amazon. Order here - https://amzn.to/3Z3rlVN

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - October 1984

I take the time machine back to October 1984 today for a deep dive into everything that happened in pro wrestling that month. WWF continues to grow and invade territories. Hulk Hogan is running a program against Big John Studd after Jesse Ventura's career ends due to illness. The AWA, however, remains strong for the moment. Barry Windham shocks the NWA by joining WWF and much more!

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - Pioneer Era Omnibus Book Launch!

It is the official book launch of my new 700-page monster research project on the pioneer era of United States pro wrestling. The DragonKingKarl's Pioneer Era Pro Wrestling Omnibus: The Bible of the Pioneer era of Pro Wrestling is now available as a print book and on Kindle! I am joined by my wife Tonya from the When It Was Cool website who sits down with me to discuss the pioneer era of pro wrestling, why it is so interesting, how it really influenced modern pro wrestling, plus much more. If you have ever wondered about pro wrestling in the U.S. before Frank Gotch then check out this week's podcast!

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1000 Hours Podcast - More Milo to Londos

This is my 1000 Hours Podcast series which focuses on the pioneer era of pro wrestling, or pre-1900 wrestling. My new book, DragonKingKarl's Pioneer Era Wrestling Omnibus is coming out this next week and, on this episode, hour 59 of 1000 Hours, I want to look at one of the oldest books to talk about the pioneer era. A book called From Milo to Londos. From Milo to Londos gave us a lot of information about the pioneer era, but it gave us some misinformation also.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Show - Vince McMahon Netflix Doc, MSG, Tokyo Dome

I have a great pro wrestling history podcast for you today. Recently, I have been looking back in history at shows from New York's Madison Square Garden and now, also, the Tokyo Dome in Japan and we continue that on this week's show. Plus, I have my thoughts on the Netflix Vince McMahon documentary. From Jim Londos to Akira Maeda to Vince McMahon, this week's podcast has a range of pro wrestling history discussed.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Show - Monsters of Wrestling

It's time to celebrate Halloween and pro wrestling is a great place to do that. Pro wrestling has long had its share of monsters and supernatural creatures. This week, I want to pull one out of the archives where I just talk about the monsters and menaces of wrestling for a while. If you've heard this show before, I hope you will listen to it again with a new appreciation of the great line that pro wrestling draws between sports and entertainment. From Frankenstein to Vampires and beyond!

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1000 Hours Podcast - From Milo to Londos Fact verses Fiction

The 1000 Hours Podcast from Karl 'DragonKingKarl' Stern is all about the pioneer era of pro wrestling. The era before Frank Gotch. Frank Gotch did not just appear out of a void and create pro wrestling for the masses in the early 1900s. Frank Gotch built on over 50 years of a thriving and, at times, hugely popular pro wrestling business. Much of what we, as historians, had to learn from until recent times were published books like From Milo to Londos and Fall Guys. But these books were written 30 to 50 years after the fact. With the research tools we now have available, what is fact verses fiction from source material like From Milo to Londos?

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Show - Wrestling Observer HOF Ballot (2024) Part 2

The second of our two annual Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame ballot shows with more discussion on the historical, era, modern era, Japan, Mexico, and the Non-wrestler ballot. This year's ballot has a lot to consider. We discuss Junkyard Dog, Bill Goldberg, the Von Erichs, The Steiners, and many more. This is usually our most downloaded show every year. Give me your thoughts on who should or should not go into the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame!

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Show - 2024 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame Show (Part 1)

It's that time of year again, Dave Meltzer has sent out the 2024 ballots for the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame. This is my most popular show of the year (two parts with part 2 airing next week) and we have a lot to discuss this year. Will the multitude of tag teams introduced over the last few years get in? What about the Young Bucks? Who is in danger of dropping off the list? Several new names are now on the ballot. So, let's discuss the 2024 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ballot. Part 1.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Real Terrible Turk and More Muldoon

On hour 57 of 1000 Hours, the podcast series about the pioneer era of pro wrestling, historian and author Karl Stern has new information about the original Terrible Turk provided by an expert on the matter, Phil Lions. Phil has given us some great details not previously published about pro wrestling's first major special attraction. Then, we look more at William Muldoon and his archrival Clarence Whistler. Why did their partnership fall apart and what did their last meeting look like. That and much more on this episode of 1000 Hours.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Audio Show - Am I a Real Court Certified Expert, Tokyo Dome History, more

On today's DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Audio Show (now ONLY for Patreon supporters and those at Wrestling Observer) I discuss the question: Am I really a court certified expert on pro wrestling? Yes, I am, and I tell you how it came about, who was involved, and more. Plus, more 1933 Madison Square Garden History, and this episode we begin a look at the history of pro wrestling at the Tokyo Dome in Japan starting in 1989 and my love for Big Van Vader, Masahiro Chono, Buzz Sawyer, and the Russian wrestler invasion!

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1000 Hours Podcast - More Muldoon

I have a tremendous show for you today on our 1000 Hours series which is all about the pioneer era of pro wrestling (pre-1900). For some time, we have been focusing on the era of Col. James H. McLaughlin, John McMahon and his family, and Andre Christol. Moving forward into the 1880s we get into the era of William Muldoon and his archrival (and sometimes business partner) Clarence Whistler. The two men had a very complicated relationship and toured the country wrestling each other. Then, for some reason, it got real, and the two split up. Muldoon sets up in San Francisco for a long time and becomes a major star there too. On this, hour 56 of 1000 Hours, let's dive deeper into William Muldoon.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - Don’t Lose This Show!

A special announcement from Karl Stern about the free Tuesday edition of the DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Audio Show. While 1000 Hours (The Pioneer Era Podcast) will remain on this free feed (because it is a sponsored show), the Tuesday edition of the classic wrestling show will be moving exclusively to our Patreon Page and Wrestling Observer. If you enjoy the classic pro wrestling content provided by Karl Stern then you must join now! It’s very inexpensive, easy, and delivered right to you!

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - GKT Finals, MSG History, Insider Wrestling Terminology History

I have a great show for you today with a variety of pro wrestling history topics. The finals of the Greatest Kayfabe Tournament (GKT) is here and you the listener have voted. Who wins between the finalists Antonio Inoki verses Mitsuharu Misawa? How did we end up with an all Japanese finals and more! Plus, more history from the 1930s at Madison Square Garden and the later days of Ed 'Strangler' Lewis time as champion in New York. Finally, wrestling lingo is in the news and I take a look at the history of insider wrestling terminology. It is older than most people think. So, hippodromers, join me for a great show packed with pro wrestling history!

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - What Kind of Fan Are You? MSG History, More.

On my show this week we need to talk shop for a bit. The wrestling landscape is changing, actually, it has changed drastically over the last five years especially. The wrestling fan has also changed considerably. When I first started providing shows for Wrestling Observer and Figure Four over 15 years ago the classic wrestling podcast listener was way different than the one today. The entire landscape both in and out of the ring has changed. So, what kind of fan are you and what are you looking for when it comes to pro wrestling history listening? Plus, we continue our look at wrestling history at Madison Square Garden and later days of Ed 'Strangler' Lewis.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Truth of William Muldoon... Mostly.

As my research into the pioneer era of pro wrestling continues, I am now into the 1880s which is the era dominated by 'The Solid Man' William Muldoon. What is the reality of William Muldoon? Should he be held in higher esteem than the dominate wrestler of the 1870s, Col. James H. McLaughlin? What was Muldoon's deal? He started out as a policeman in New York but ran afoul of the Police Chief and Commissioners because he wrestled for money in Greco-Roman which had a terrible reputation at the time. So how did William Muldoon become the most popular star in the country and the most recognizable name of the pioneer era and... was he on the level? This is hour 55 of 1000 Hours.

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Long Form History of Wrestling - August 1984 - The Road Warriors and More

I am back with my continuing series The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling and on this episode, I cover August 1984. Hulk Hogan and the WWF continue to steam roll over everybody and essentially steal California from the AWA by buying their TV spot out from under them. But the other promotions aren't dead just yet. Georgia rises from the ashes to attempt a comeback, The Road Warriors become AWA World tag team champions, and more. 1984 was a turning point in the history of pro wrestling and we are deep in the heart of it with this show!

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1000 Hours Podcast - Will the Real Christol Please Stand Up?

My 1000 Hours series is all about the pioneer era of wrestling which is pre-1900 or the era before Frank Gotch and on this episode, I have a wild, entertaining, and hilarious set of stories about Luicen Marc, the French Greco Roman champion. We have talked about him previously; a bear bit his finger off and he masqueraded around as fellow French champion Andre Christol. Well, what happened when the real Andre Christol found out about it? Hilarity ensued, that's what. This is a tale from the 1880s which you would swear is straight out of the 1980s. This one is worth your time to jump on if you've never listened before. Are you not entertained?

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1000 Hours Podcast - The McMahon and Owens Family, More Lucien Marc

I am back with what is essentially a part two of last week's 1000 Hour's podcast as I look more at the original first family of wrestling- John McMahon, James Owens, Peter Owens, and Ed Cox. Plus, the trilogy of Col. James H. McLaughlin verses John McMahon concludes. What was real and what wasn't between the two biggest stars of the 1870's? Lucian Marc meets the real Andre Christol, and he isn't happy... or so the story goes. More works, scams, fakes, and bears as we continue our look into the pioneer era of American pro wrestling. This is hour 53 of 1000 hours.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - July 1984 - Black Saturday and More

My long form history of pro wrestling series is a month-by-month break down of the history of pro wrestling. Currently, we are up to July 1984 (which I cover in my DragonKingKarl Stern 1984-1985 Pro Wrestling Omnibus book) and one of the major events in the rise of WWF/WWE takes place - Black Saturday, when Championship Wrestling from Georgia went off the air replaced by WWF programming. It did not go well. Plus, Rick Martel as AWA champion, New Japan, Mid-South has a huge show, and much more!

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1000 Hours Podcast - Why Does Lucien Marc Only Have Three Fingers?

I return with my podcast series on the pioneer era of pro wrestling (pre-1900) with a packed show today. Most of it is spent discussing the first, first family of wrestling. Wrestling families are part of its culture: The Von Erichs, The Armstrongs, The Welches, The Funks, The Briscos, The Windhams, etc. But the original first family of wrestling were the four members of John McMahon's family: John McMahon, James Owens, Peter Owens, and Ed Cox. There are multiple American (World) championships between them during the 1870s all were among the top tier of pro wrestlers in America. However, I couldn't help but name the episode after Lucien Marc's missing finger because that is one heck of a story.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Germany, France, and Europe Influence Wrestling

I am back with my 1000 Hours series which focuses on the history, origin, and evolution of pro wrestling in America. A listener has asked about Germany, France, and Europe in the pioneer era of wrestling. France, in particular, was hugely important in pro wrestling's popularity in the United States with Prof. Thiebaud Bauer bringing his French style of Greco-Roman and turning it into a true entertainment spectacle. Wilhelm Vandervecken and Wilhelm Heygster of German and many other Europeans impacted the formation and popularity of wrestling in the U.S. This is hour 51 of 1000 hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Man Who Derailed McLaughlin

I return with the 1000 Hours podcast series which focuses exclusively on the pioneer era of pro wrestling or the era before Frank Gotch. I am looking back today at 1875 and 1876 which was dominated by the American heavyweight champion Col. James H. McLaughlin, pro wrestling's first major star. McLaughlin won pro wrestling's first big championship tournament in 1870 in Detroit and had dominated until, out of nowhere, a relative unknown Michigan wrestler named Jacob H. Martin showed up and held McLaughlin to a draw- twice! And one of those lasted almost eight hours. Is there more to the story? I discuss it on this episode. This is hour 50 of 1000 hours.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - June 1984 - WWF Takes Over, Boot Camp Match, More

On this episode of the DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast I continue my Long Form History of Wrestling series with a look at June 1984. WWF has bought out the Georgia territory and it's first venture into national cable television didn't quite go as planned. There is both a new NWA and AWA World champion and now a new IWGP champion as well. Plus, Sgt. Slaughter and the Iron Sheik have their famous Boot Camp match. All that plus Arn Anderson and Jerry Stubbs, and much more!

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1000 Hours Podcast - John McMahon Shot, Davy Crockett, and More

Hour 49 of the 1000 Hours podcast series is a packed one. The 1000 Hours series is my detailed, heavily researched look at the pioneer era of pro wrestling, or pro wrestling before the time of Frank Gotch. On today's episode I am asked about Davy Crockett, whose obituary following his death at the Alamo claimed he was a wrestler. What is the reality of that claim? Plus, we discuss the shooting of pioneer legend John McMahon whose working of matches caught up to him in San Francisco. Tons to talk about on this episode so let's get to it!

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Return of the Terrible Turk

Wrestling historian Karl Stern first covered the pioneer era wrestling special attraction Yousof Ismael- The Terrible Turk, on hour five of the 1000 Hours podcast series, but the Terrible Turk deserves a follow up as requested by one of our listeners. Now Karl tells you the latest information he has uncovered about the original Terrible Turk who came to America in 1898, beat the best in the country (including the American champion), then died on his way back to Europe... and how much of it was legitimate. This is hour 48 of 1000 hours, the podcast about the pioneers of pro wrestling.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Who Was Homer Lane?

The early pioneer era has given us some very interesting people to learn about so far. Uzile Prickett, Col. McLaughlin, G.W. Flagg, and now let's meet Homer Lane. Homer Lane was one of the early American champions. A multi-time American champion as a matter of fact. He was also a straight up carny. Yes, even before 1870 pro wrestling had its workers as we have learned, and Homer Lane was one of them. He was also probably part of pro wrestling first (?) trust/syndicate/booking office along with John McMahon, Harry Hill, and others. This is hour 47 of 1000 hours.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - May 1984: Kerry Von Erich Wins NWA Title, Vince Sr Dies, Georgia Falls

Wrestling historian Karl Stern returns with a detailed look at the month of May 1984 in pro wrestling history. It was one of the most significant months ever: Kerry Von Erich wins the NWA World title from Ric Flair in the largest show in Texas history, Ric Flair regains the title in Japan, Rick Martel becomes AWA World champion, Vince McMahon Sr dies, Andy Kaufman dies, and much more. If you are a fan of classic old school pro wrestling history then this is a great jumping on point.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Real Story of the 1870 Detroit Tournament

I have recently spent many hours digging through hundreds of pages of 1870 newspapers from Detroit, Chicago, Ontario, and beyond chronicling the real story of the biggest tournament in history of American pro wrestling in the pioneer era. The 1870 Detroit International tournament awarded an ornate championship belt to its winner Col. James H. McLaughlin, but McLaughlin did not become the American champion, at least not yet, but I give you that story too. Also, McLaughlin may have killed Barney Smith, but it probably did not happen here either. I also clear up a number of other myths and errors that history books have recorded about this milestone in pro wrestling history. This is hour 46 of 1000 hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pioneer Era in Australia and Death of a Star

The latest in the 1000 Hours Podcast series looking back at the pioneer (pre-1900) era of pro wrestling takes a look at the pioneer era of wrestling in Australia. Believe it or not, there was pro wrestling in the 1800s in Australia and one of America's top stars died there. The incredible story of the death of Clarence Whistler has been often told but the details are a bit incorrect. On this episode we will look at what is really known about how and why Clarence Whistler died while wrestling in Australia plus his last match there and why he was there to begin with. This is hour 45.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Wrestling Presidents

Pro wrestling historian and author Karl Stern (DragonKingKarl) returns with the 1000 Hours podcast series which looks at pre-1900 pro wrestling. On this episode, a listener has requested a look at the facts verses mythology about United States Presidents who have legitimately wrestled. We have already previously cover Abraham Lincoln in episode one but here we look also at George Washington (whom we have newspaper accounts of wrestling), Andrew Jackson (who we have some stories about), plus at least two other Presidents who have possible wrestling credentials and one President who was privately tutored by a legitimate pro wrestler. We go from the squared circle to the Oval Office on this edition of the DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Audio Show. This is hour 44 of the series.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Great Lakes Wrestling in the Pioneer Era

The pioneer era (pre-1900) of pro wrestling flourished in the Great Lakes area. While initially the northeast, especially New York and Vermont were the early hotspots, by 1970 Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, and the entire Great Lakes region became very important in pro wrestling. The 1870 Detroit International tournament was a real ignition point for the popularity of pro wrestling nationwide and the Detroit Opera House became a shrine for the genesis of American pro wrestling. Join historian Karl Stern as he looks at the Great Lakes region in the pioneer era. This is hour 43.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - April 1984 (Patera and Saito Arrest)

Wrestling historian Karl Stern returns with another in-depth look at a month in pro wrestling history. Today he looks back at April 1984 and a lot was going on. The WWF was accelerating their national expansion by stealing the AWA's TV spot on the west coast, Jumbo Tsuruta is still the AWA World champion, and a new monster named Lord Humongous is challenging Jerry Lawler in Memphis, but the big news of the month happened in Waukesa, WI when Mr. Saito and Ken Patera fought multiple police officers and were arrested and ultimately sent to prison.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Wrestling in the Biblical Era

It's Easter Sunday and by serendipity, Eric, the sponsor of this episode of 1000 Hours, asks for the research topic to be wrestling in the Bible. Well, one of the most famous stories in the Bible both for Christians and Jews is the story of Jacob wrestling with the angel, or a man, or God himself (the story is complicated). Of course, by the time we get to the Christian era the Romans are in charge and wrestling is very much a big deal. Also, I finally have an excuse to talk about Milo of Croton and whoa boy... This is Hour 42 of 1000 Hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pre-Hackenschmidt Russian Wrestling

The sponsor of today's 1000 Hours podcast, the podcast all about the pioneer era of pro wrestling, has asked for research on wrestling in Russia before George Hackenschmidt. Interestingly, wrestling in Russia came relatively late in the pioneer era and George Hackenschmidt became its biggest star but there were others. Today we look at the early stars of Russian wrestling and how it originally developed as an import from Poland and France.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Strongmen of the Pioneer Era

Strongmen and pro wrestling go hand in hand. Who can forget the muscled up 1980s? Yet, the more things change, the more they stay the same. In the pioneer era of wrestling, your proto-strongmen and bodybuilders were also featured alongside and inside professional wrestling. On this episode of 1000 Hours, the podcast all about the pioneer era of wrestling, historian Karl Stern takes a look at such pioneering strongmen and their relation to pro wrestling such as Eugen Sandow, Louis Cyr, and George Hackenschmidt. This is hour 40 of 1000 Hours. 

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Evils of Wrestling

The 1000 Hours podcast series is hosted by wrestling historian Karl Stern and looks back at the pioneer era of pro wrestling. The more things change, the more they stay the same and on this episode we look back at just before the American Civil War see how wrestling, for a few year period, went from being a noble sport that men were look up to as participating in, and instead changed to a vice, a sport that drunkards, cheats, and gamblers participated in. We also look at how the media has been anti-wrestling from the very start. This is hour 39.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Barney Smith is Dead

I mean, Barney Smith was probably dead under the best of circumstances. He went to the finals of American pro wrestling's first ever major championship tournament in 1870 but, as we have been researching for a long time now, there seemed to be no clear evidence he died at the hands of Col. James H. McLaughlin in that 1870 tournament. Now, however, two well-known wrestling historians, Jason Campbell and Mark Hewitt, have independently found a source fourteen years after the tournament that alludes to Barney Smith's death and some details on it. Today on 1000 Hours we look at this new information. This is hour 38.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pioneer Era Wrestling in France

This episode of 1000 Hours is brought to you by Andrew who recently read an article about showmanship in wrestling in the 1800's in France. The French and the English seemed to have the biggest impact on pioneer era pro wrestling in America and, no question, they had a penchant for the dramatic as we have already discovered with Prof. Theobaud Bauer, King of Wrestling Charles, and others. Today's show is a fascinating look at the origins of some of the theatrical aspects of wrestling pre-1900 and pioneer era wrestling in France. This is hour 37.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - March 1984 (Race, Tsuruta, Flair)

This is the 100th installment in the Long Form History of Pro Wrestling podcast series from author and wrestling historian Karl Stern. On this episode we look back at March 1984 following the death of David Von Erich the wrestling world is still in shock. Ric Flair and Harley Race pull off a secret NWA World title change on the other side of the world. Jumbo Tsuruta tours America as AWA World champion, and Hulk Hogan settles into his run as WWF champion. A very exciting time in the history of pro wrestling!

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1000 Hours Podcast - Bounty on Barney

I believe the Bounty on Barney has been collected. I now have a source within 14 years of the match. I'll discuss it on the February 25th show.

It's hour 36 of 1000 Hours, the podcast all about the pioneers of pro wrestling. On this episode we do a lot of research on pioneer era wrestling including some new tidbits about Col. James H. McLaughlin which leads us back to our most enduring mystery- did Col. McLaughlin kill Barney Smith? If yes, then why is there not a shred of evidence to support it aside from Barney Smith disappearing from the record, and if not, then why does the story even exist? It's time to resolve the Barney Smith story once and for all.

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1000 Hours Podcast - More on the King of the Wrestlers Charles

On this episode of 1000 Hours, the podcast about the pioneer era of pro wrestling, historian and author Karl Stern returns to the pre-pioneer era just before the United States Civil War to uncover more about the first known self-promoted pro wrestling star Charles the King of Wrestling. The pre-pioneer era was a fascinating time period in American history and from it we now see the seeds of what would become American showman style pro wrestling.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pre-Pioneer Era in America

On this edition of the 1000 Hours Podcast, the podcast all about the pioneer (pre-1900) era of pro wrestling, historian Karl Stern digs even deeper to look at the era before the Civil War. Was there organized professional wrestling in the years leading up to the Civil War. The answer is yes! Some. The seed is certainly there. Now, the million-dollar question... was it too worked? The answer to that may actually be... yes and we may have discovered the FIRST promoted pro wrestler in America. Let's meet the King of Wrestling George.

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1000 Hours Podcast - G.W. Flagg and John McMahon

Pro wrestling historian Karl 'DragonKingKarl' Stern returns to further discuss the pioneer era of pro wrestling in the 1000 Hours series which focuses on pro wrestling pre-1900 or before the era of Frank Gotch. On this episode, he looks back at two pioneers: G.W. Flagg and John McMahon who only met once, and it was during the Civil War, and their careers afterward. Plus tons of other research from that era. This is hour 33.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Greek George and the Champion of the South

The pioneers of wrestling era discussion continues with hour 32 of the 1000 Hours podcast with host, pro wrestling historian Karl Stern. On this episode the eventual manager of Evan "Strangler" Lewis, Greek George, is promoting wrestling in Pensacola, FL where we meet the Champion of the South. Who was he and was this a work or a shoot? Tons of notes on pre-1900 pro wrestling and tons of research on the pioneers of wrestling.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Of Bauer and Bears and More

The 1000 Hours podcast series explores the pioneer era of professional wrestling, that is to say, pro wrestling before 1900 or the era of Frank Gotch. Gotch didn't appear out of a vacuum, a history of over fifty years of pro wrestling had already been sown in the United States and further back than that in Europe. Names like William Muldoon, Col. James H. McLaughlin, Jim McMahon, and H.M. Dufur were the original wrestling stars of America. In this episode, host Karl Stern takes a look at one of his favorites: Prof. Theobaud Bauer, a worker (ie: con man) of the highest order and this time the story involves bears. This is hour 31.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Podcast - February 1984 (Death of David Von Erich)

This is the 99th installment of the long form history of pro wrestling series by pro wrestling historian Karl Stern. In this chronological look at the history of pro wrestling, Karl is up to February 1984 which is infamous due to the shocking and unforeseen death of David Von Erich just before he was scheduled to begin a tour for All Japan Pro Wrestling. Taken from his new book: DragonKingKarl's 1984-1985 Pro Wrestling Omnibus, this is one of the most detailed looks at February 1984 ever undertaken.

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The Iron Claw (2023) Movie Review Podcast

Karl and Tonya review the 2023 pro wrestling biopic The Iron Claw. This is a dramatized retelling of the tragic story of the Von Erich family which endured tragedy after tragedy including the young deaths of multiple brothers, a domineering father, and more. Karl and Tonya look at how the film did in communicating the horrific events of the Von Erich family and Karl takes a look at some of the real facts which the movie fictionalized. We both loved this movie so come and join us for an extensive look at The Iron Claw.

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History of Wrestling at MSG: The Fall of the Second Madison Square Garden

All good things must end and in this edition of the History of Wrestling at Madison Square Garden the second Madison Square Garden meets its fate and pro wrestling almost does as well. The battled between Jack Curley and Tex Rickard fizzles to an anti-climactic end but with Rickard still in control of MSG and now, building a new gigantic 20,000 seat third Garden, he is still the man to deal with. Enter: Jesse McMahon who shakes up boxing and his son Vince McMahon (the elder) who will shake up pro wrestling.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Can You Bear Another Episode?

The pioneers of pro wrestling podcast returns and our sponsor for this episode, Andy, wishes to know more about the history of bear wrestling. Does it have pioneer era origins? As it turns out, bear wrestling was very much a thing in the pioneer era. We even find our old friends, the working shysters team up of Theobaud Bauer and Prof. William Miller involved in bear exploits. This is not an episode I thought I would be doing in the pioneer series but here we are and I'm impressed at just how prominent it was. This is hour 30.

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1000 Hours Podcast - From Muldoon to Roman

On this hour of 1000 Hours Podcast, the podcast all about the pioneer era of pro wrestling, I think it is important to step back for a moment and ask the very legitimate question... what does the pioneer era really have to do with pro wrestling? Wasn't it just untrained conmen with large mustaches traveling the country tricking people into a betting scam? What does it really have to do with modern entertainment style pro wrestling? Today, I take you on an unbroken journey from William Muldoon to Roman Reigns to show you that it is a more direct link than you may realize. This is hour 29.

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1000 Hours Podcast - A Boxer and a Wrestler Walk Into a Bar

DragonKingKarl Stern's latest look back at the pioneer era of pro wrestling takes a look at John McMahon, whom we have previously discussed. John McMahon, apparently, like his drink. According to newspapers at the time one of the first boxer verses wrestler matches may not have taken place as a betting even for spectators, but instead, in a barroom because McMahon had too much to drink. Then started running his mouth. Then, well, you know. Find out what happened next plus tons of other notes from the pioneer era of pro wrestling in this edition of 1000 Hours. This is hour 28.

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What's So Special About 1984-1985 Pro Wrestling?

Celebrating the release of my new book: DragonKingKarl's 1984-1985 Pro Wrestling Omnibus, I will take a look back at these two massively important years in pro wrestling history. Hulk Hogan wins the WWF title, the WWF national expansion begins in earnest including the takeover of the WTBS time slot, the death of David Von Erich, Starrcade 1984 & 1985, massive Thanksgiving Day shows, Pro Wrestling USA, the injury of Mike Von Erich, WWF WrestleMania I, Mr. T, the John Stossell slap, and much more. It's a massive two year period in pro wrestling. Let's discuss it!

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Ludicrous Tale of Richard K. Fox

If I told you that today's look back at the pioneer era of pro wrestling involved a bear eating a kid and a funeral invaded by corpse eating cats you might think me ridiculous. Well... welcome to the world of Richard K. Fox: Pioneer Era Pro Wrestling Influencer. It was Richard K. Fox via his National Police Gazette publication that distributed championship belts, promoted matches, and popularized the famous wrestlers of the era. It's impossible to compare him to a modern conterpart. He was no Dave Meltzer. He was no Bill Apter. He was more if Vince McMahon and Vince Russo had a kid and you gave him a wrestling magazine to publish. You will learn a lot on today's show, some of which you will wish you hadn't. This is hour 27.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Ringside Wrestling Book on Pioneers

On this edition of 1000 Hours Podcast, the podcast all about the pioneer era of pro wrestling, host Karl Stern (DragonKingKarl) takes a look at a much overlooked book on the pioneer era (and beyond) titled: Ringside: A History of Professional Wrestling in America by Scott Beekman, a college educator who put tremendous research into the topic. Karl was a source cited in the book and discusses some of the interesting facts in the book while still seeking the truth about Col. McLaughlin and Barney Smith.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Polish Influence on Pro Wrestling

1000 Hours is a podcast about the pioneer era of pro wrestling- pro wrestling before Frank Gotch, before 1900. This is a requested topic by Eric, the sponsor of this episode. He wants to know about the Polish influence on pro wrestling. In the 1970s especially, various Polish wrestlers were popular as an ethnic draw, but does it go back further than that? When speaking of the Polish influence on pro wrestling two names immediately come to mind, the brother duo of Stanislaus and Wladek Zbyszko. This is hour 25.

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1000 Hours Podcast - More McLaughlin Killing Smith Mystery

1000 Hours is a podcast about the pioneers of pro wrestling, that is, pro wrestling before Frank Gotch and 1900. Today we further examine a mystery that has been plaguing us. Despite the story of Col. James H. McLaughlin killing Barney Smith in the 1870 Detroit International tournament having tremendous detail in it's telling over the years there seems to be not a shred of evidence uncovered so far that it actually happened. Wrestling historian Karl Stern tries digging deeper in the past to uncover anything about Barney Smith and the 1870 tournament. This is hour 24.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pioneer Era Wrestling Outside New York City

This show was sponsored by Andrew and he asked for research on pioneer era pro wrestling in the state of New York outside of New York City. So, host Karl Stern digs into newspapers in Buffalo, Rochester, and surrounding areas to find out that the pro wrestling scene outside of New York City in the late 1800s was well and good including a number of names we have became familiar with including Col. McLaughlin, H.M. Dufur, Theobaud Bauer, and more. This is hour 23.

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Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame Ballot Discussion 2023 - 2 Shows

Welcome to Karl Stern's annual Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame ballot discussion for 2023. The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ballot show is usually my most popular show of the year. This year it's a two-part show discussing, among others: Roman Reigns, Young Bucks, Rocca and Perez, Sgt. Slaughter, Big Daddy, Roy Welch, Bob Armstrong, Mongolian Stomper, the Von Erichs, British Bulldogs, Hart Foundation, and many more. Let's talk the 2023 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pioneer Era Wrestling in Mexico

The origins of pro wrestling in Mexico is probably not what you think. You may think it was Salvador Lutteroth and EMLL/CMLL or some long forgotten masked star. What if I told you it was actually a Japanese Judoka and a barnstorming rag-tag group of American wrestlers? What if you found out that pioneer era wrestling in Mexico was in, not only with wrestling in America, but also Cuba and the infancy of Ju-Jitsu in Brazil as well? Because it's true. The origin of wrestling in Mexico is not what you might think. This is hour 22 of 1000 Hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Mystery of Barney Smith. Maybe Dead. Maybe Not.

Well, I mean he is dead for sure now. He lived 150 years ago but the question is did Col. James H. McLaughlin kill him? In the early 2000s when I first really dug into the pioneers of pro wrestling, I was led to believe that in a famous wrestling tournament in Detroit, MI in 1870, Col. McLaughlin wrestled Barney Smith in the finals and Smith died the day after. There were many specific details to the incident told to me by a historian. Problem is, over 20 years later and with access to all the major newspapers of the day there doesn't seem to be a shred of evidence to support it. What happened to Barney Smith? This is hour 21 of 1000 Hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Champion Wrestler Uziel Prickett Had a VERY Bad Idea

1000 Hours is a podcast all about the pioneers of pro wrestling and on this episode I have found a new one. I had never previously heard of Uziel Prickett, but he was a pioneer era champion wrestler and he had a hard time getting along with others. You see, pro wrestling was in all honesty really a scam meant to fleece gamblers of their money, we all know this by now. Well, Uziel Prickett kept getting found out and nearly beat up for it. Then he had a terrible idea. He would pull this same con down south in Nashville and things didn't go very well for Uziel. This is hour 20 of 1000 Hours.

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Long Form History of Wrestling Series - January 1984

Today pro wrestling historian Karl Stern begins looking at the year 1984 in pro wrestling and January 1984 was a huge and historically important month as Hulk Hogan wins the WWF heavyweight title from the Iron Sheik at Madison Square Garden in New York City. The AWA is beginning to get it's talent raided by WWF with, not only Hulk Hogan, but Gene Okerlund, David Schultz, and others coming over. On top of that, Hulk Hogan is still an important part of New Japan Pro Wrestling as well. What do the NWA and others do? Let's talk about it!

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1000 Hours Podcast - The American Heavyweight Championship

1000 Hours is the podcast all about the pioneers of pro wrestling. On this episode, host Karl Stern takes a look back at one of the earliest and most important championships of the pioneer era: The American Heavyweight championship. It was a time when it seemed like every wrestler billed themselves as "Champion of America" in some form or other. But what can we deduce about the actual championship of America that led eventually to Tom Jenkins, Frank Gotch, and becoming tied into the George Hackenschmidt World heavyweight title? Let's talk about it. This is hour 19 of 1000 hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Clarence "The Kansas Demon" Whistler

One of the most interesting personalities in the 1800 pioneer era of pro wrestling was the arch-rival (and sometimes friend) of William Muldoon. I introduce you to Clarence Whistler. In the early 1880s he gave William Muldoon the fights of his life. He was rough, dirty, and vicious. Yet, somehow, he would occasionally work with Muldoon as a partner as pro wrestling in America took form in the post-Civil War period. Clarence Whistler would not see his 30th birthday and would be buried on the other side of the world. Some of the claims about Whistler are quite fanciful. Let's take a look at pioneer pro wrestling legend: Clarence Whistler. This is hour 18 of 1000 hours.

Join us as we take a look at the history of pro wrestling pre-1900 or prior to the Frank Gotch era of wrestling. How did modern entertainment style pro wrestling begin and evolve? This series explores it’s history and personalities. YOU CONTROL THIS SERIES! It will only run as long as it is supported. In order to get another hour of 1000 hours we need a new Patreon supporter at any level or a cash donation via the front page of WhenItWasCool.com to either PayPal or CashApp (Please put “1000” in the note). As soon as it is received I will produce a new hour. Presently, we are funded up to hour 28.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Theobaud Bauer is Dead and There Was Much Rejoicing

Professor Theobaud Bauer was one of the most successful pro wrestlers of the pioneer era. He traveled from coast to coast and was easily one of the most famous professional wrestlers of the 1800s. He was also, apparently, quite the despised human being, for when he died the Los Angeles newspapers virtually celebrated his death. Theobaud Bauer may be the most interesting wrestling pioneer we have looked at yet, perhaps for all the wrong reasons. This is hour 17.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pioneer Era Pro Wrestling in Africa

This episode was requested and sponsored by Eric Darsie of the Wrestling With the Dawg Podcast and he asked if there is any evidence for pioneer era (pre-1900) pro wrestling in Africa. Africa is hard enough to get modern era pro wrestling news out of so I didn't expect to find much, however, there does appear to have been pro wrestling in Africa during the era. I expected to find it in either Egypt or South Africa but what I found was an interesting history and style of wrestling throughout the continent that exists even to this day! This is hour 16.

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1000 Hours Podcast - That Time H.M. Dufur Got Shot in the Face

Henry Moses Dufur was one of the greatest, most important, and most well-known pro wrestlers of the pioneer era. He started wrestling before he was a teenager and by the time he was in his thirties was pretty well established as one of the best ever. Then one day he got shot in the face. Yes, directly in the face while riding a train, minding his own business. This is that story, it is a dozy, and I had never heard it before finding it in an old newspaper. That's what we are here for. Welcome to 1000 Hours, the podcast about the pioneers of pro wrestling. This is hour 15.

Join us as we take a look at the history of pro wrestling pre-1900 or prior to the Frank Gotch era of wrestling. How did modern entertainment style pro wrestling begin and evolve? This series explores it’s history and personalities. YOU CONTROL THIS SERIES! It will only run as long as it is supported. In order to get another hour of 1000 hours we need a new Patreon supporter at any level or a cash donation via the front page of WhenItWasCool.com to either PayPal or CashApp (Please put “1000” in the note). As soon as it is received I will produce a new hour. Presently, we are funded up to hour 26.

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1000 Hours Podcast - G.W. Flagg Writes a Letter

More pre-1900 pro wrestling stories on this edition of 1000 Hours including some more information about pioneer era wrestling in Alabama that I’ve found. The primary focus of this episode comes from the mouth of one of the pioneers of wrestling themselves. Late in life (in his 70’s), champion pioneer wrestler G.W. Flagg wrote a detailed letter to a newspaper about his wrestling match with another champion, John McMahon. It goes into detail about Civil War camp pro wrestling and gives us a first hand account of what we have been talking about during this series, confirming and clarifying a lot. Let’s hear straight from a pioneer of wrestling legend on this episode of 1000 Hours. This is hour 14.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pioneer Wrestling in Minnesota: Muldoon and Lewis

1000 Hours Podcast is all about the pioneer era of pro wrestling. Pre-1900 pro wrestling. In this episode, sponsor Eric D. wanted to know about the pioneer era of wrestling in the state of Minnesota. While Minnesota would become a hotbed of wrestling from the 1940s through the 1980s with Verne Gagne's AWA, Minnesota also had a rich history in the pioneer era as well including major events for two of the biggest stars of the time: "The Solid Man" William Muldoon and the original "Strangler" Evan Lewis. This is hour 13 of 1000 hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Pioneer Wrestling in Alabama: Who Was M.J. Dwyer?

This was a request from this episodes sponsor, Jason. He asked what the pioneer era of wrestling (pre-1900) was like here in Alabama. Great question... because I have no idea. Pro Wrestling really didn't explode here until the 1940s but I knew there was some pro wrestling to here prior. So, let's dig into research. What I discovered was an established scene in the Birmingham area and the man whom it revolved around was M.J. Dwyer. Who is that? I discovered a lot about M.J. Dwyer and discuss it on this episode. (Spoiler alert: We run across Dwyer again in a few episodes!) This is hour 12.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Matsada Sorachichi

Matsada Sorakichi was the first Japanese star in America. He faced all the top names of his era including Evan "Strangler" Lewis, Duncan C. Ross, Edwin Bibby, Tom Cannon, and others. Though on the small side, he gave the top wrestlers of the day all they could handle and was highly respected by the best champions of the pioneer era. Yet, he died destitute in the streets of New York at age 32. What went wrong? What was the real story of the first Japanese pro wrestling star Matsada Sorakichi? This is hour 11 and is brought to you by new Patreon Pete.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Farmer Burns, Cigarette Cards, Evan Lewis

Among the pioneer era of pro wrestling few names stand out bigger than Martin "Farmer" Burns and Evan "Strangler" Lewis (the original Strangler Lewis). On this episode of 1000 Hours Podcast we look back at one of the most famous matches of the pioneer era when Farmer Burns defeated Strangler Lewis for the American title in a match the press (and crowd) was certain was fake. Plus, we'll look at the life of Farmer Burns and also discuss the first pro wrestling collectable- Allan and Ginter's Cigarette cards. This is hour ten of 1000 Hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Jack Carkeek Goes to Prison

Jack Carkeek was a well known top level wrestler during the pioneer era who later got into the promoting end of things. As we have discussed often in our series so far, gambling was a big component of pro wrestling becoming worked and Jack Carkeek was very much a shyster. So much so, that he ended up being indicted with a major crime syndicate in one of the first federal cases of using the U.S. Mail for criminal purposes- fixing wrestling matches, and ends up serving time in prison for it. This is the story of Jack Carkeek, pro wrestling criminal, and this is hour nine of 1000 Hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Opera House Cup

Pro wrestling promoter Court Bauer claims his MLW Opera House Cup dates back to the "pioneer era" and was last held by Stu Hart in the 1940s. While that is a little outside our range of exploration for this show, one of our Patreons requested we investigate the pioneer era claims. What we found had less to do with MLW but a lot to do with the evolution of how entertainment got mixed with sport. An interesting investigation that lead to some very informative conclusions! This is hour eight.

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1000 Hours Podcast - John McMahon

Who was the pioneer wrestling legend John McMahon? Was he related to the later McMahons? How did he compare to contemporaries like William Muldoon and Col. James H. McLaughlin? On today's episode of 1000 Hours, host Karl Stern dives into the life and career of one of the top stars of the pioneer era of pro wrestling: John McMahon. This is Hour 7 or 1000 Hours.

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1000 Hours Podcast - William Richardson: Belted Champion

Hour six of the 1000 Hours Podcast features a look at one of the pioneer eras most famous wrestlers in Britian. William Richardson was a famous and celebrated wrestling champion at the turn of the 1800's, pre-dating most of the people we have talked about so far. We have numerous accounts of his exploits including, what may be the earliest references to championship belts being used in wrestling and why. Some of our earliest evidence of what pro wrestling became starts here with Richardson and the colorfully titled book he was featured in. This is hour 6.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Terrible Turk Yusuf İsmail

What a great show I have for you today. On the 1000 hours podcast where we talk about the pioneers of pro wrestling I want to look at one of the biggest gimmicks ever to hit pro wrestling: Yusuf İsmail, the Terrible Turk. We will look his background before he came to America and his much lauded American tour which he died returning back to Europe from. Why did he inspire such a rabid response from the press and fans? Why did he inspire so many knock off gimmick for the next 100 years? Who was this Yusuf Ismail and why was he such a sensation? This is hour 5.

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1000 Hours Podcast - Duncan C. Ross Tells All

There have been several wrestlers and promoters over the years who have gone rogue and spilled the beans on pro wrestling. We all know the famous story of Jack Pfeffer and the New York Daily Mirror in the 1930s, Eddie Mansfield on 20/20 in the 1980s, and others. However, in the 1880's former champion wrestler Duncan C. Ross gave an earful to the newspaper as well exposing the lives of several former major champion wrestlers including Col. James H. McLaughlin, William Muldoon, and straight up call one former wrestling star a fat bum. All this and much more on the podcast YOU the listener keep going as long as you like. 1000 Hours, the pioneers of pro wrestling. This is hour 4.

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1000 Hours Podcast - The Trial of William Muldoon

Hour three of the 1000 Hours Podcast where wrestling historian Karl Stern takes a look at the pioneer era of pro wrestling. In this episode we travel back to 1885 where pro wrestling champion William Muldoon is put on trial for allegedly attacking a security guard at a theater in New York City. Plus, more on the career of William Muldoon and his place as one of the most prominent figures in early pro wrestling history.

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When It Was Cool Wrestling Podcast - 1000 Hours: Hour Two: Viro “Black Sam” Small, William Muldoon, and more

Hour two of the 1000 hours podcast takes a look at the first widely known and studied African-American wrestling star: Viro "Black Sam" Small. Viro Small was born into slavery in South Carolina. After being freed following the Civil War, he traveled north and became a wrestling champion and well known boxer. He survived being shot in the neck but what happened afterward has been lost to history. Plus, some discussion about one of the most important pioneer wrestling stars: William Muldoon.

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1000 Hours - Abraham Lincoln verses Jack Armstrong

Abraham Lincoln was honest. So the story goes. And, he honestly was an actual wrestler. Abe Lincoln did, in fact, participate in organized frontier style wrestling during his youth including a famous match against Jack Armstrong. There is another famous match of Lincoln, a loss, which we'll look at in this episode. If you want another hour of pre-1900 pro wrestling talk, then become a Patreon supporter at WhenItWasCool.com or donate via PayPal or Cash App on the front page. This is hour one.

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What’s So Special About 1983?

1983 was one of the most important years in the history of professional wrestling. Upon the events of 1983 were built the WWF national expansion, the fall of the territories, the eventual birth of the major yearly event, Hulk-A-Mania, the fall of Jimmy Snuka, the success of Mid-South wrestling, the best year of Southeastern Wrestling, an era of flux for Memphis, the red hot Von Erich vs Freebirds war in World Class, the 1980s peak of but beginnings of the fall of the AWA, massive shows in Mexico, and the birth of the IWGP title in Japan. There's a lot to talk about. Check out my new book: DragonKingKarl Stern's 1983 Pro Wrestling Omnibus available at Amazon.

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The 201 Greatest Pro Wrestlers of All Time List Podcast - The List

The list of the 201 Greatest Pro Wrestlers of All Time is now posted at WhenItWasCool.com so the debates can begin and spoilers can roam free! On this episode I discuss the top several names on the list then dive deeper in to talk about the names that surprised me most, some overrated, some underrated, and why I think that is. Let's discuss the greatest pro wrestlers of all time- spread the word about WhenItWasCool.com!

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The 201 Greatest Pro Wrestlers of All Time List - Questions and Answers

This is the final podcast before the list of the 201 Greatest Pro Wrestlers of All Time List is released on January 1, 2023 (the day before to our Patreon supporters). This episode addresses any questions listeners to our shows have about the list and the process. How did we deal with tag teams? Why is the list male only? Plus safeguards to insure this list encapsulates the most informed opinions about who are the greatest pro wrestlers of all time.

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The 201 Greatest Pro Wrestlers of All Time List - Intro, Sources, and Methods

This is the first in an on-going series looking at the 201 Greatest Pro Wrestlers of All Time List. The list will be dropping as an article on http://www.whenitwascool.com on January 1, 2023 (1 day earlier on Patreon). How is this list expected to be the most legitimate ranking of pro wrestlers ever? What sources were used and how was the ranking system developed to make it as accurate as possible and why you should trust this list.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Omnibus 7 (1953-1959)

This collects episodes 31-35 of the long form history of wrestling podcast series from DragonKingKarl. This episode examines the 1950s and the rise of the NWA to power, the development of the territories, Lou Thesz, Gorgeous George, Jim Londos, Edouardo Carpentier, Verne Gagne, Dick the Bruiser, The Sheik, The Crusher, and many more!

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Omnibus 6 (1943-1952)

This collects episodes 26-30 of the DragonKingKarl Long Form History of Pro Wrestling series. Re-edited. This show covers the French Angel, Lou Thesz, Sandor Szabo, Frank Sexton, Orville Brown, El Santo, and the formation of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA). The World War 2 and post-WW2 era of pro wrestling.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Omnibus 5 (1935-1942)

This collects episodes 21-25 of the DragonKingKarl Long Form History of Pro Wrestling series. Re-edited. This show covers the so called "lost era" of pro wrestling up to World War 2. Learn about Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Everette Marshall, Jim Londos, Bronco Nagurski, Dave Levin, numerous splits of the World heavyweight title and double crosses galore. The deepest dive into this era of pro wrestling history you've ever heard.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Omnibus 4 (1917-1935)

DragonKingKarl continues this re-edited long form history of pro wrestling series covering the years 1917 (the death of Frank Gotch) through the Ed "Stranger" Lewis era. Also discussing Earl Caddock, Joe Stecher, Danno O'Mahoney, Jim Londos, Wladek and Stanislaus Zbyszko, and many others. The World War 1 through the Great Depression era of pro wrestling history a so-called "lost era" in wrestling history.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Omnibus 3 (1900-1917)

This is a collection of DragonKingKarl Stern's Long Form History of Pro Wrestling podcast series collecting episodes 11-15 which covers pro wrestling from 1900 until 1917. This is the Frank Gotch era. Covered are his battles with George Hackenschmidt, Farmer Burns, Tom Jenkins, and others. His many retirements, the leg injury that ended his career. His forgotten return match and his death.

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Omnibus 2 (1882-1900)

DragonKingKarl's long running Long Form History of Pro Wrestling at Wrestling Observer is now re-edited and being released for free on this podcast feed. Episodes 6-10 of the Long Form History of Pro Wrestling have been re-edited and put together in one free show covering the years 1882-1900 (Muldoon, McLaughlin, Lewis, Burns, Gotch)

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DragonKingKarl Classic Wrestling Podcast - The Long Form History of Pro Wrestling Omnibus 1 (0000-1881)

DragonKingKarl's long running Long Form History of Pro Wrestling at Wrestling Observer is now re-edited and being released for free on this podcast feed. This is the first installment which is take from the first 5 episodes of the Long Form History of Pro Wrestling covering from the ancient past until 1881 and discussing such wrestlers as Abraham Lincoln, William Muldoon, Col. James H. McLaughlin, John McMahon, Prof. Theobaud Bauer and others. The history of pro wrestling begins here.

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07 Saga of the Lord Humongous

Our biggest Saga of wrestling special clocking in at over three hours covering in detail every aspect of the career of the wrestling character Lord Humongous. Humongous was played by multiple people during the 1980s, first Mike Stark, then Jeff Van Camp, then a dude out in Texas for minute, then Sid Vicious, then a few other people (even Scott Hall!) Based on the character by the same name from Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior, the monster brute terrorized Memphis, SECW, Continental, Mid-South, and more!

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04 Saga of the Death of David Von Erich

The story of David Von Erich is a powerful story. He was young and destined for greatness. Perhaps he was even the heir apparent to the NWA World heavyweight championship. But then an ill fated trip to Japan for a tour with All Japan Pro Wrestling ended his story. We will examine in detail the last few months of the life of pro wrestling star David Von Erich and explore where he was, where he was headed, and how it all ended.

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